Joined: May 15, 2007
Location: Venice, CA
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After using a Vason jacket for about 10 years, I am thinking about switching to a synthetic material. I am considering the BMW Rallye 2 Pro.
Any comments?
One specific question I had was what is the purpose of those two pieces of fabric located on both sides of the chest that snap back to reveal a triangle of fabric? Are those just vents? They seem so small. Also, any idea when/if a v3 is coming out?
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05/20/2007 at 18:57
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Joined: Nov 12, 2006
Location: Stone Mountain, GA
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Marc said: After using a Vason jacket for about 10 years, I am thinking about switching to a synthetic material. I am considering the BMW Rallye 2 Pro.
Any comments?
One specific question I had was what is the purpose of those two pieces of fabric located on both sides of the chest that snap back to reveal a triangle of fabric? Are those just vents? They seem so small. Also, any idea when/if a v3 is coming out? I have the complete Rallye 2 Pro suit. I love it. Did some riding in low temps (20F), heavy rain long distance and have to say I would buy it again. I like the idea of wearing only one suit that fits any weather conditions. You're correct, the two flaps are part of the venting system. Anybody, who considers long distance-all-weather-travel should take the Rallye 2 Pro into consideration... No thoughts on v3 though...
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Thomas - I'll worry about assisted living later...
IBA# 28109
'07 R1200GS Adventure
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05/20/2007 at 22:41
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Joined: Nov 16, 2006
Location: Columbus, OH
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I've got the Rallye 2 Pro Pants and a Savanna 2 jacket. Both work great from below freezing to summer afternoons in the mid west. I'll second TRex and say you can't go wrong with the Rallye 2 suit.
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05/21/2007 at 23:54
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Joined: Feb 28, 2007
Location: Franklin, IN
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I've used the Rallye II jacket and pants for three years as my only riding outfit (ATGATT). The R2 was a prior generation of the current R2Pro.
It's been a great setup! Very well thought-out. The suit is a good all-rounder....warm in the winter (with the lining) and not too stiffling in the summer heat. You can open enough vents in the jacket to make it bearable. There are two vents in the pants, but they are located along the thighs and I don't get any airflow there on the RT.
It's been very durable. One thing I have not had a chance to test the waterproof qualities in an absolute downpour, though....
Downsides? Not many. The zippers seem flimsy to me. The main zipper especially. It's very tiny. You also have to be very careful with the vent zips that you don't get the lining caught in the zipper. Maybe they've fixed these things in the newer model.
The past few weeks of 90-100 degree days here forced me to buy a "Venting Machine" Jacket for summertime usage.
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08/31/2007 at 22:07
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Joined: Jun 05, 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Marc said:After using a Vason jacket for about 10 years, I am thinking about switching to a synthetic material. I am considering the BMW Rallye 2 Pro.
Any comments? I did the same-thing a couple month ago. I sold my two Vansons (One was perforated ) on ebay and bought a Rally 2 Pro and didn't regretted ! I love having just one jacket for all the weather. Cheers.
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09/06/2007 at 00:36
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Joined: Aug 15, 2007
Location: Harwich, MA
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Yep, I highly recommend it as well. You certainly get what you pay for. My last suit was a British Motorcycle Gear (formerly Belstaff) allyear/all-weather two-piece. Excellent suit but for one thing: one cannot remove the Gore-Tex liner (the winter liner is removable), which makes this suit too warm for me above 80F. I was concerned about this when I purchased it but was taken in by the considerable savings over the Rallye 2 Pro. Before that Belstaff, I owned BMW's 1998 version of the Rally 2 Pro, the Kalahari. Nine years and almost 130,00miles later, it became time to retire my old friend. Heat, cold, rain (occassional snow and sleet)...nothing mattered with this thing (not even that one embarrasing fall on wet railroad tracks---doing only about 20mph.) The Rallye 2 Pro is an inprovement on what was 10 years ago already an excellent touring suit. The ONLY minus is the price. Again, you get what you pay for. Papa Gian
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Papa Gian
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09/14/2007 at 16:48
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Joined: Jun 13, 2007
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This suit has been my favourite yet over the last two years. Very waterproof. Fits like a second skin and very well armoured. Not a lightweight at 12 pounds for the jacket but worth every penny. Would buy this suit again in an instant. Ride a lot in Mexico and for EXTREMELY hot weather riding you might want something else but it is the best all rounder suit out there I've found.
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07 R1200GSA, 05 R1200GS, 99 F650
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09/16/2007 at 18:03
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Joined: Nov 12, 2006
Location: Miller Place, NY
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Although I have many Vanson jackets and leather pants, when on a ride that will span many different weather conditions I pack the Savanna 2 jacket and pants. Both have the Gore-tex liners for wet or cold conditions, and have not let me down as of yet. Pricy, but well worth the cost.
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Pete...
What?... Me Worry?
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09/16/2007 at 21:10
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Joined: Nov 03, 2007
Location: brentwood, TN
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What changes will be made to the 2008 Rallye 2 Pro Suit and the 2008 Santiago? Will the NP protectors become available in the Santiago? Thanks in advance for your time.
Chuck
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12/15/2007 at 01:35
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Joined: May 15, 2007
Location: Venice, CA
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I have the same question as Chuck. Any changes to the 2008 verson of the Rallye 2 Pro Suit?
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07/24/2008 at 18:44
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Joined: Feb 13, 2007
Location: Omaha, NE
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What are you guys wearing UNDER all that 2 Pro gear?? Anything besides your skivvies? Then what if I wanted to wear my heated Gerber jacket? Do they make one that you can zip up around the outside over street cloths like a coveralls & still not croak in summer temps? And is this high $ BMW stuff as bulky? (Maybe not even in the same caliber), but for example if I remove my TEKNIC jacket & a helmet and want to lock those in the bags on the RT I'd better not have much if any other baggage (like heated jacket), & if I have a passenger equiped the same forget it! The TEKNIC is OK for moderate temps, but that's it. Is the Vason of anything similar? Then are you ordering this stuff on line (trial & error size) (where?) or can a person find places that stock sizes to actually try on before purchase?
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08/03/2008 at 23:29
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Joined: Jan 08, 2007
Location: Livonia, NY
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Umm, bulky? Yup. It kinda fits in the sidecase of my CLC (pants and Jacket) but not much room, and you gotta kinda bend the armor a bit. A nice feature is the sleeves on the jacket zip off, so you can spread it around through other bags if necessary. But if I have it, I am wearing it and not riding with it in a bag. I wear t-shirt and biking shorts beneath the suit in normal temps. If colder, more layers. i have been known to slip the pants on over my jeans in a pinch, but only once. I believe that the jacket should fit over a heated vest or similar, but you may want to get a slightly loose fitting jacket to make sure. My dealer has a couple in stock and you can check sizes that way. I am sure most dealers have some for comparison, or at least a different style with a similar fit. The euro sizing is somewhat misleading until you get used to it. There is also a conversion to US sizes right on the tag. If you tell us how big you are and your normal clothing sizes, maybe others here can give you some advice. Good luck and I love my suit. Kevin
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SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKIES .. . . THEY ARE NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING,
BUT THEY STILL BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN YOU PUSH THEM DOWN A FLIGHT
OF STAIRS.
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08/04/2008 at 19:06
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Joined: Jun 14, 2007
Location: San Dimas, CA
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I love my R2P suit. It truly is the one go anywhere, do (almost) anything riding suit. Underneath it's usually just boxers or padded cycling shorts under the pants with some some sort of long sleeve wicking shirt or a basic long sleeve t-shirt up top. I can open or close the various vents to regulate airflow/temp pretty well. Then, as it cools down, I'll either add an additional thin layer of clothing or simply zip in the GoreTex liners, which are surprisingly warm. For those who wonder, the zippered vents on the pants are really only there for when you're standing up off road. They do little to nothing as far as venting when seated. The armor is top notch, although there are many folks who wish it was "hard" armor. Hard, soft, whatever...it's all well placed and makes me feel secure when riding. I especially like the coverage the back pad provides. The Rallye 2 Pro suit is $$$, but well worth it. Sadly, if I had to do it all over, I think I might choose the Santiago suit. Like the R2P, it is downright expensive, but you get what you pay for. In the Santiago's case it's Dynatec fabric. I've been spending much more time on the highway than I ever planned when I purchased my GS. As such, I find myself wishing I owned a riding suit geared more for the pavement than the dirt. Don't get me wrong, the R2P suit will, in all likelihood, do just fine if (God forbid) I were to ever go down on the freeway. I feel especially good knowing I have that oversized back protector in there. Still, I can't help but wonder if I'd be better served getting a suit made of a more tear/abrasion-resistant fabric (e.g., Dynatec, Kevlar, etc.).
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Scott (AKA GSlite. Isn't there some way to get your username changed?)
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08/04/2008 at 20:37
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Joined: Nov 22, 2006
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Marc said: I am considering the BMW Rallye 2 Pro. You better go and pump some iron. Have you lifted the jacket with all gear attached. The words "extremely heavy" would be an understatement. My 2 piece Aerostich weighs less than the jacket alone. I spoke to someone that was wearing one as he was about to leave the local dealer. When it gets wet, it is heavy, he said. I think he meant ultra heavy. Other than that, its an excellent jacket but not good enough to part with my Aerostich.
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All the best, Alex
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08/16/2008 at 20:43
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Joined: Jun 14, 2007
Location: San Dimas, CA
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Globalrider said:You better go and pump some iron. Have you lifted the jacket with all gear attached. The words "extremely heavy" would be an understatement. This was a concern when I first went to look at the suit prior to purchasing it. I'm always amazed by how heavy it feels when I'm carrying it or hanging it up. Funny thing is, the weight is not an issue once I'm wearing the jacket. Also, what little weight I do happen to notice when wearing it serves as a reminder of the quality and wraparound nature of armor/pads.
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Scott (AKA GSlite. Isn't there some way to get your username changed?)
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08/18/2008 at 02:09
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