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Hancock NY Quarry Run (Dual Sport) report
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Joined: Apr 05, 2007
Location: Edison, NJ

Hancock NY Dual Sport “Quarry Run” , August 10 and 11 2008  

 So after being told about how good this ride was for the last two years, and not being able to attend due to it falling on my wedding anniversary (8/19), they decide to reschedule the run in 09 just for me.biggrin 

 In the past, it’s been strictly a “Dual Sport” run (with 99% running 400cc or smaller dirt bikes.)

Many of the guys in my Enduro club warned that this would be the most difficult DS of the year…so I prepped by bike for some mountain carnage...Preperation is key if you want to ride and not have to stop and fix your bike throughout the weekend. 
  • I put some extra armor on the bike (Pipe guard and a heavy duty skid plate)
  • Install some soft compound knobbies and set both tires to 15psi…The softer compound helps the tires “Grab” the slippery rocks and 15psi is just enough air to keep from getting pinched flats, but to still let the tire have some flex... (Do not run 15 in your GS bikes, in the Rocks…For GS’s or G-650’s I run 20psi..(I learned the hard way getting  more then one flat).
 
  • And the most important step here: I adjust my suspension for riding in the rocks. To give you an example, my Forks are usually set at 15 clicks out (for compression). I reduced this to 3 clicks out (almost as soft as possible) Same thing with the rear shock….set to almost the softest possible setting…
  • For rebound, I went down only half of the compression clicks.

 One thing I overlooked was to check the weather forecast, and I was not prepared for the amount of slippery, greasy mud that was to follow. Here we are on the road trip up

 

Notice the weather…This basically remains the same the entire weekend. Here’s a shot of James on the first trail. It looks all sweet and lovely. What you don’t see is that it about a 2” deep muddy, wet grass single track… 

  I tried to take as many pictures as possible. I apologize in advance for not getting the dramatic uphill trail climbs that most everyone else got. Here’s why;Part of the KEY difference between making it up the hill, and not making it up is momentum…I’ve been there; half way up the hill, and it’s really hard to turn around, go back down, and start back up again. Not only is this exhausting your body, but mentally, your now intimidated of the hill climb… Without the confidence and the momentum, it’s a lot more difficult to make it up that hill… So whenever a hill climb came, I with stand up and get on the gas….stopping at the top to try and get pictures of my riding buddies…. 

 So remember, next you’re out there…Momentum and Confidence will get you up or out of most challenges on your bike. So day one continues on. The entire day we find ourselves either climbing or descending rocky single track ledges. My bike is bouncing from side to side. My front wheel looks like it’s constantly hitting the front fender, something I’m not used to (using up almost all of my 12” of front suspension!) Worked in between the single track sections were these awesome grassy fields with ribbons indicating some high speed grassy track sections… 

If it would have been dry, these sections would have been out of this world. But the grass was wet. Very wet, turn after turn I made, there were guys laying all over the place…I can only compare it to riding your bike on a sheet of ice…Extremely challenging! This part of the day becomes the demise of two riders in my group. As I’m waiting at the end of the grass track for James and Eugene to catch up, James (A flat-tracker and supermoto junkie) comes flying around the last turn…He had such an admirable position, and I don’t know how he lost it, but his rear slid right out…Moments later, our buddy Eugene comes sliding around the same corner, and also looses it, running directly into James…At first it looks graceful, but James is hurt…James is able to ride a bit more, but he’s not feeling 100% 

So we make it to the first rest stop. This is a house remotely hidden at the top of a mountain overlook. Definitely an amazing place that I could only wish to find on my own. This stop was interesting. Here they offered the riders beer and some snacks…Beer, but no water was available..LOL…and I’m not kidding…I found that a bit odd!

Okay so we’re off again….some more single track trails, and now we come out to an amazing motocross track. 

I mean this was definitely well thought out. The racer in me came out. I was  holding on for dear life as I  hit the tabletops not knowing if there’s a muddy landing (or any landing at all)…What I do know is that I’m not letting this guy next to me get past me! I later found out that piece was used in last years ISDE race, and many enduro legends were doubling and tripling most of the jumps that I was just clearing!!! So now we make it to lunch, my group of four is down to three…Eugene, Frank, and I. Lunch was a bit late in the day, and a bit further then I would have liked. I was famished, and thankfully the food was good, and there was plenty of it!  

I find it so cool to see the vast array of bikes, all assembled in this field.  You would never know while out riding the trails that there are 600 other riders out there! Most of the time, we’re riding with maybe 7-10 riders through sections. Time to continue on, about 25 miles left of day one…. 

 

Just as I’m ready to leave, I notice that the rear of my bike looks strange…Uh oh, there’s no more plate or taillight!! Bummer…I guess the mud took its toll on it! Day one comes to an end. Believe it or not, despite the dark clouds we didn’t get rained on!   We get back to the motel, and begin to wash the 15-20 pounds of mud off…This is after driving to the local town power wash, and find the  owner very upset and shutting  it down after about 4” of mud clogged up all four bays!!! I should have taken a picture of that…But the owner wasn’t happy with about 20 bikes standing there, all sopping with mud… We head over to the local tavern, and fill our bellies…Here’s the part I love…four guys and the tab is $31! Yes $31 and all of us ate!

 

After dinner we head over to the campground and say hi to our Enduro club (MCI) and ADVRider brethren. (James, Eugene, and Josh)

As we pull into the field, we notice that someone found my plate, and about 6 other license plates!! LOL!

Wow, did someone lose their front end? 

I’ve never seen that many lost plates before at an enduro, never mind a dual sport!!!  I come to the conclusion that the campground is the place to be…Nothing like a campfire after riding in the woods all day…Yeah, life is good!! We cover 84 miles on day 1 Day 2  Eugene fixes his front fender.  Today we have another friend “Anthony” joining us.  James is going to stay behind and relax after yesterday’s crash. We head out and about 5 minutes in, the skies turn almost black and bam. the thunder and rain start coming down! 

Anthony and Eugene

Today’s ride loops back on some trails I recognize from yesterday…I think to myself, oh no…if 600+ riders rode this trail yesterday, it’s going to be a mess. But interestingly enough, the short familiar section leads us to some fresh trail…and here’s where the fun starts.  Here’s a shot of the first major hill climb. This one takes some teamwork to get past the top. 

After about an hour, the rain tapers off, and the remainder of the day is perfect… Look closely at the tires in these pictures…We’re not kidding about the mud!

We ride about 54 miles, and decide to cut out early and get a head start back towards home. 


Hancock is definitely a challenging ride. If you rode it, I don’t need to tell you that.

If you didn’t, definitely put it on you calendar for next year…It’s truly an amazing event.

Thanks for reading my report

 



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07 X-Challenge - -Xplor BlueRidge (08) Group Leader/Sweeper -Xplor the Pines (07) Group Leader -PB500 Group Leader (06,07)


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Joined: Apr 05, 2007
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Nice report! Need more pics, but it does not sound like there was any time to stop and take them! Wish I had the skills and stamina to try a ride like that...guess thats why they picked you for Tunisia and not me!

Eric 

 

 

 

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Joined: Apr 05, 2007
Location: Edison, NJ

I'm sorry for the jumbled post..and lack of pictures..

I've spent a good part of 3 hours trying to link the pictures, and had the board Error out....I'll try to fix it tomorrow...



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07 X-Challenge - -Xplor BlueRidge (08) Group Leader/Sweeper -Xplor the Pines (07) Group Leader -PB500 Group Leader (06,07)


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Joined: Mar 28, 2007
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The Saturday morning, we are seeping our coffees,
which was the best coffee available in 100 miles radius, I'm pretty sure.

Thanks for the generous hospitality Sallydog



Huge registration line... More than 600 people attended the event I guess.





Our team ready to rumble...

To all kind of terrain...



But...



After the first trail ride, Old Brooklyn Boy's vintage BMW says it's over...
Do not force me anymore...
It was our first and last (thank God) mechanical break down.

After this incident we continued and hit the first trail, sharing with racing guys.
It was my first trail experience and, it was a real challenge to climb that frigging muddy hill with Sahara tires.
There where couple of 1200GS' on that trail too.

Light bikes and bikes with right tires and/or more experienced riders did the job much easier than us.
I saw a guy w/650GS leading 1200 GS', he was good... Really good

We decide to took a break and the mandatory picture of the team !



Tipsy, Doc, me, Ginzer, Josh and Mike...

After that historic moment
(I could get a heart attack after couple of more trail riding, that why it was historic )
we've reached the heaven...
A large shed with lunch service, at the middle of effin nowhere.





Then ride continued with more dirt, wood, and enduro racing trails which same trails saw the World Enduro Championship.
This was too much for my street tires and Mike's heavyset KTM.
He needs a light bike and I need knobbies for sure. We helped eachother and found the summit. Thanks Josh, Tipsy and Ginzer...

View was awesome there...



Rest of the trip was trouble free.
Mike and I split from the team at the last trail, and found almost 10 miles or more amazing dirt and wood roads to ride.
Then we lit up the camp fire, took off the beers from the cooler
Rest of them was blah blah blah *bada-boom* more blah blah blah and zzzzzz....

Let's do it again...

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Now let's have a little whisper among us...

IMO it was a kinda strange event... This was announced at BMW site and I heard from Xplor...
http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/etc/news.jsp?label=ama_national_adventure_riding_series

BMW sponsored ride. Almost 70% of the bikes was KTM, rest of them Suzuki and others.
I saw 5 BMW's total... 1%!

What I saw was Suzuki's 18 wheeler and tent event was the only attraction.

I didn't see any BMW flag, sign, or advertisement around too. I'll dig that further...

Hancock area was beautiful and rides was organized excellent for Dual Sport / hard enduro riders but not the big bike riders..
Some parts, parts we share with D/S guys was unnecessarily difficult for Big Bike riders like 1150/1200 GS's/ big KTMs, and two up riders.
Somebody from organization should warn them before they are middle of the trail fighting the mud. You should see that poor guys...

I agree, some challenge is good, and fun though. But pushing that beasts uphill on the single track muddy trail, especially when racing two strokes or 450's buzzing - jumping around,
 was not fun, was dangerous too.

D/S and Big Bikes mixed trails WAS NOT a good idea.

I found the event rather expensive though. $55 per day and sandwich for lunch (which is OK).
But not even a lousy T-shirt, ruffle ticket, or one sticker was included.
Dinner was strangely scheduled to Sunday night too.
Who would stay for Sunday night at the camping ground
(which was not a camping ground but a baseball field) I have no idea.

All and all it worked well and we leave Hancock with smiling faces.
I criticize friendly, hoping to get better planned and greater events for the future years...
More pix by others...
Hitmike's camera...
It's me... I guess my bike was the only XPLOR Xchallenge bike in activity.
Enjoy...
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PS: I'm sorry that you may not be familiar above mentioned nicknames. Most of them are members of both ADVriders and XPLOR.


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Hell must be full of tasteless motorcycle designers... DD


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Joined: Apr 05, 2007
Location: Edison, NJ

Donald,

 

Outstanding report! and awesome pictures!

 



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07 X-Challenge - -Xplor BlueRidge (08) Group Leader/Sweeper -Xplor the Pines (07) Group Leader -PB500 Group Leader (06,07)


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